Unfortunately my experiment with using Saucony shoes or at least the Saucony Jazz 13's was a failure. I should qualify that the Jazz 13's may be a good shoe but they were not right for me and I will explain why. Not sure if you can make out the wear and tear on the shoe photos in this post but to explain I think you can see that the uppers are as good as new and would last many more miles. However the heal wear was excessive and the black carbon sole has been worn away to show patches of yellow beneath. At this point I never run on using a pair of shoes as to do so will only lead to probable injury. There may be people who do and get away with it but not me.
Unbelievably I have only run a 108 miles in them! They were very comfortable and out of the box were immediately enjoyable to wear perhaps more so than most shoes that I have had which normally require 3-4 runs to get used to them. New shoes can often feel so springy and it just takes a few runs for you and shoe to become perfect partners. The Jazz 13's as I say felt like slippers and were a great fit.
As a runner I have high arches and under pronate as I run and the advice I have always had is that I need a neutral shoe.As I tend to land on the outside of my heel this is where I found shoes
wear out. I need shoes to have a hard carbon outer otherwise I can find
the wear is too great.I can end up chucking shoes out even the rest of
the shoe may be in good condition because the outer heel has become like
a cliff edge.What lead to the Jazz 13's not being right for me? Well I just don't know but with my long term injury I did put on weight so I would have been a harder on the shoes. I do tend to mix my running between road and trail. As you can see from the photos there is plenty of mud on these but I have never had a pair which gave up the ghost after just 108 miles! Clearly Jazz 13's were not ideal for trail running.
I always try to alternate shoes for each training run so I still have my Asics Gel Stratus 3's which currently have over 300 miles of usage and are still fine. In fact this set me to looking back on recent shoes and how many miles they have lasted as a basis for what brand I should buy next. My results are
Asic Gel Stratus 2's 412 miles
Asic GT 2130 449 miles
Mizuno Wave Rider 423 miles
Asic Gel 427 miles
Asic Gel GT 2110 516 miles
Reebok Premier Ultra 111 314 miles
Reebok Premier 214 miles
New Balance 1060 439 miles
New Balance 854's 241 miles
Saucony MC5's 356 miles
Brooks Addiction 405 miles
New Balance 855 406 miles
Saucony Trigon 258 miles
I started recording the shoe I wore and the miles run in them from around 2004 so what does the stats tell me ? It is fairly clear that the Saucony shoes just don't suit me as well as Asics. I have consistently got at least 400 miles out of Asics. New Balance , Brooks and Mizuno were also in the main likely to give me 400 miles of running. From this I am likely to look at one of these brands for my next shoe.
I would be interested to know how many miles do you get out of your shoes before they wear out ?
I ran a 40 minute mainly green paced heart rate monitor run this morning. This is a medium paced effort and I think doing the race on Sunday acted a little as a kick up the pants as I ran 4.6 miles for around 8.45 pace. Still no great shakes but heading in the right direction as most of my previous training runs in the last month have been at 9 min plus miles.
I've never really kept track of the number of miles I run in a pair of shoes, buryblue, I just replace them every 6 months or, if I've been slack, every year. Since I have high arches and over-pronate, I prefer Asics Kayanos. In all the years I've been wearing them, I've never known the soles or heels to wear out. All that I've ever noticed is that the cushioning in them collapses. And come to think of it, the uppers have usually given out before the soles or heels.
ReplyDeletethat's a significant difference in mileage! i would definitely stick with asics in your case.
ReplyDeletei thought it was time to replace mine (mizunos) but i bought a new pair and compared the tread and the old ones weren't really that bad (in my opinion) so i'm still running in those before i break out the new pair. of the 2 pairs i'm running in - i think they are probably both close to 500miles? i don't focus on mileage as much as feel - if my lower legs start aching i'll see if a new pair of shoes doesn't make a difference.
Thanks Revrunner and Lindsay I am considering Asics or a pair of Brooks and it will come down to cost and a bit of a gamble as to which I trust to last !
ReplyDeleteI have heard of a new 1000 mile shoe but I am going to see some feedback on these but will def consider next time round see link
http://www.outdoorsmagic.com/gear-blog/1000-mile-running-shoe-developed-with-the-army/7402.html
Mizuno shoes is a great one! My brother have it, for almost 3 years now. And he doesn't regret of buying it. :)
ReplyDeleteI don't tend to keep an accurate count of mileage for each shoe - but have to replace them about every 3 months - recently I have gone back to wearing Nike (peagasus) and also New Balance. New Balance seem to be the longer wearing of the two brands
ReplyDeleteI use Ascics Gel Pulse 2's and I typically replace them after a season of track or cross country. I start getting knee problems if I don't before then. They probably get around 400. But maybe I should just be replacing them sooner. I think they were like 80 bucks(USD)or so.
ReplyDeleteWith me the midsoles breakdown before the outer sole so have not had the same problem with Sauconys. They have lasted OK.
ReplyDeleteBut that is the reason I never advise other people about what shoes to wear. What works for me might be useless for someone else. But if Asics have worked for you before why change?